I remember when I started getting interested in music you had to choose [between indie acclaim or mainstream clout]. It was definitely disconnecting that helped me do what I wanted to do. Robyn in her early days. Credit: Getty. The production is really fresh. And lyrically it tells it exactly how it is.
Everyone knows that feeling. That really is craftsmanship. She was still in psychoanalysis, which, coupled with grief, made her question everything: her purpose, reality itself. She gestured across the pool. Being single was hard but occasionally pleasurable. She spent time away from her home in Stockholm, which felt too family oriented for single life.
London, Paris and Ibiza were better. Clubbing was important. How do I find peace? Despite her coveted musical style, she had come to feel like her sound was not entirely her own, so she taught herself production.
She had her own ideas about the groove her new music demanded. She also learned to dance samba — the music makes her cry. Not all of them ended up making tangible musical contributions, but the partnerships became intimate friendships, based on musical exploration and big nights out, which saturate the album.
But Kindness was equally struck by her deftness with fleeting emotion. The songs appear in the order they were written, tracing the journey from desolation to ecstasy and reconciliation.
The lowest point is Missing U, the first Robyn single that sits with loss rather than trying to metabolise it and sprint onwards. Even if you have never loved and lost, it will convince you that you did, and that this song was your song.
Imagine Billy Bragg declaring he was never going to sing about socialism, ever again. Chin in palm, elbow on desk, she concentrated on a new song bolting from the speakers. She looked childlike, bouncing her bare legs to the beat. For someone who smokes a lot of tarry cigarettes, even while recovering from a cold, she is the picture of milk-fed health. They were in the earliest stages of production for her upcoming tour, trying to work out the setlist.
More important was how to interweave her new album — a complete, linear story — with her older material without creating contradictions. Robyn has had an unusually long pop career, especially for a female musician.
There is no template for her: Madonna still struggles for creative control; MIA has swerved in and out of the mainstream. She knows how many young pop acts cite her as an influence. Recently, she bumped into Martin in Los Angeles. They had dinner and she mentioned her new music. Can I listen, please? I would have loved it if somebody had just encouraged me to do something wrong! When she first signed with a major label, she imagined that working as a pop star would be something like the career her parents had.
They were part of a travelling theatre group, and Robyn and her brother were raised on the road, driving around Sweden in a Volkswagen minibus outfitted with airplane seats. But life as a major-label pop star was nothing like being in a family theatre troupe.
In , she was making music for a fourth album with Jive Records. He helped Robyn buy herself out of her deal, though, and get back the rights to her music.
She used her savings from her blockbuster debut album, Robyn Is Here — almost all the money she had — to start her own label. Synth-pop flourishes punctuated with reggae and dancehall influences weave their way around futuristically feminist lyrics. Robyn wanted to release Body Talk in three parts because she thought it would allow her to break up the touring schedule with time for creating new music. She recalls how a few years ago, she and Robyn were walking through a hotel after a Swedish music awards show when a group of journalists ran up to Robyn seeking more quotes.
Konichiwa is still run by a tiny team working with a small group of creative collaborators — choreographers, designers, directors, producers and managers.
OK, why not! She imagines that trying new things is much harder at bigger record labels. At cm tall, Robyn gains extra elevation from her basketball shoes, which are customised with 6 cm soles. Robyn has seen the alternative up close. She toured Europe with Madonna in and North America with Katy Perry in and had plenty of opportunity to observe the scale of their support teams and the complexity of their business operations.
In , gossip blogger Perez Hilton implied that there was tension between Robyn and Madonna on tour. It would be sad to try to copy her model. We finish our avocado on toast and decide to walk to a Spanish wine bar around the corner from the restaurant. He says Dancing On My Own became his anthem. Calum's version was released commercially in and performed better than Robyn's original, reaching number two in the UK singles chart.
He also describes the "surreal moment" when the two of them met - by chance - at the BBC. She came up to me and said it was nice to finally meet me.
You never expect to meet the person who had the original song". Robyn says Calum and his voice interpreted it in a way that "made the song came alive again". She says there have been so many covers because "it's a great song". But as Calum was bringing the song to a far wider audience in the mids, Robyn was taking a step back from what she'd created. The song came from a break-up in her own life and she became "tired of the broken heart". I don't feel conflicted and I love performing it and playing it live.
When Robyn toured in , she cut the song just before the chorus, leaving thousands of fans to sing her track back at her. I was at her gig at London's Alexandra Palace. It was such a goosebump moment to join everyone else singing "I'm in the corner, watching you kiss her" at the tops of our voices. At the time, I remember Robyn seemed to be genuinely overwhelmed by it.
By that point, she felt the song had moved on from its beginnings and "became something that took on meaning for a lot of people in different ways". For someone that often writes about heartbreak and emotions, Robyn says she finds nostalgia and sentimentality "difficult".
But maybe that's why it connects to so many people too. Charli says Robyn "continuously evolved" in her career but "has always stayed true to who she is".
I watched her gig in Oslo last year and it was the most cathartic thing I ever saw.
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